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fed up. weekends planned ruined

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im fed up.

A Bit of background, Ive got a 1.6td golf engine, that im trying to fit to my bus. Ive got a diesel sump but unlike the golf sump there is nowhere for me to return the oil from the turbo back into the sump

So, trying to avoid asking questions through fear of being told off, I decided to research the problem of the turbo oil return fitting myself. and ended up buying a turbo *cheap* oil return kit off brickwerks

http://www.brickwerks.co.uk/shop?page=s ... ory_id=109

so aswell as ordering all the other parts I needed to get the engine fitted this weekend, ive got the bus out, towed it down to the garage, all set...

but the part doesnt fit! the pipe is nowhere near long enough. to get to the sump

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if anybody can offer any words of condolance / advice I would be eternally grateful.

I guess I will have to wait until monday, and call brickwerks up?

very disappointed :(

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I recon http://www.pirtek.co.uk/Could sort it for you..
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your quick at replying mate!

as I posted, i thought of that, il go up there first thing in the morning! they open at 8 (in leicester)

Its still not the point though, I ordered a part to do a job, of a specialist. You would expect it to fit!!!

Il send them the invoice for the new hose, and claim compensation :D I guess they are the only specialists though, dont want to fall out with them..

I am doing it right though? is there more than one turbo? so perhaps this 'kit' might suit a different turbo thats lower? or perhaps manifold?

really appreciate your help

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Quite possibly.i know nowt about golf engines.So cant help you there.Sorry...


so perhaps this 'kit' might suit a different turbo thats lower? or perhaps manifold?
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have you fitted a manifold from a jx? As i think they are different shape to one out of a golf, might make the turbo further away?
your looks like a different angle to mine Image
mine is a 1.9td (my flexi is slightly longer, due to longer engine)
can't imagine brickwerks selling something the wrong size, got to be something else like manifold, are you using a T25 sump?
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I should of said.You will need to use an original 1.6jx sump.
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I really dont know alot about the differences between JX etc?

please find time to read original post

http://forum.club8090.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... 6&start=15

essentially i bought the bus with this engine (although only loosly fitted at the wrong angle) and with the bus came a conversion kit

the conversion kit contents are litsed on the other post, and ive merlely tried to fit them

there must be something non standard somwhere... although i have no idea what? id appreciate your help

here is the top if that helps identify

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R0B wrote:I should of said.You will need to use an original 1.6jx sump.


im confused? do you mean id need to use the original if I intend to use this pipe? or does it not matter if I get a bigger tube?

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the kit you bought is so you can use a non turbo sump on your TD engine, but the sump has to be originally from a T25
i'll have a look at your thread
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Hard to tell from the photos but it looks like the golf turbo and exhaust manifold - that kit is made for the jx (T25) turbo and manifold, the turbo sits more tucked in and lower, and it definitely fits (its what I have on my van).

Have you fitted up the t25 sump - can't tell from photos.

If it is the golf turbo and manifold then yeah you'll have to get a custom return pipe made up - they haven't supplied anything wrong, its just you're trying to put it on a different setup...

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as i suspected. glad i asked prior to having a moan!

Il post some more pictures tomorrow, if you lot wouldnt mind trying to identify exactly what I have, as ive got more bits and peaces to buy.

for example the turbo air inlet, and the pipe from the turbo to the inlet manifold

the exhaust!! ive got a brand new rear silencer (goes all the way along the back) but I need some kind of pipe to connect it to the exhaust manifold.

but for now im concentrating on getting the engine physically back in, and il worry about the ancillaries pipes etc once its in.

assuming (as I suspect) it is a golf manifold and a golf turbo... what other potential problems is this going to present me?

thanks again all. sorry to be a pain.

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it is a golf manifold and a golf turbo... what other potential problems is this going to present me?
possibly fouling the engine mounts
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If you can get hold of a JX exhaust manifold and exhaust, then you'll be able to bolt up a JX exhaust downpipe, and as long as the silencer you have is a diesel one, it'll all bolt together. Also means when you need to replace it a few years down the line it'll be off the shelf. You'll also be able to fit all the standard inlet hoses, it will be a much neater install. JX is the engine code of the 1.6TD in the T25, so the bits are all designed to fit together in the space of the engine bay - the actual engine is pretty much the same as what you have, just all the ancillaries are designed for that engine bay and installation.

You've got the golf manifold and turbo set up, the turbo sits above the manifold, and I'm not sure if it will physically fit with the diesel engine mounts you've got - have you tried?

Much easier to find the JX manifold than the turbo, but the turbo you have might be ok - the key is seeing if it has K14 as a part number on the ali plate - are you able to see this?

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no, i dont think it does

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anybody fancy a swap?

I just want to put an engine in it now... unlike minis it seems parts for these things are quite hard to get hold of!

can I put it together without turbo?

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Its a KKK which is a start - perhaps its part of the casting - have a look for KKK K14 somewhere - if its the SB engine code then I'm pretty sure its a K14

Can be put together without a turbo but wont be great, will be flat as a fart...

Should be able to find the exhaust manifold for not much money...

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