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We've got some alloys on the van that were fitted when we got it. It seems that they're not the right fitting. I've looked at the specs on the wiki and understand we need: PCD 5/112 and for the 15" x 7" wheels we have, the offset should be between ET 30 and 32. However we have ET23.

We want to get some new wheels - preferably 17" and black. We went to one wheel shop who only found us one set he said would fit! We went somewhere else today and they've come up with a few other alternatives but I want to do some research myself and see what's available. Most of the websites don't seem to publish the full specs - they ask for your vehicle details but their database doesn't have a T25. Is the T25 much different from the later transporter models in terms of wheel fitting?

or any ideas on nice wheels we can get!? I've been looking at the Team Dynamics Mesh but not sure if we can use them. http://www.rimstyle.com/products/detail ... 55BLA13250

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If you are going to a Wheel shop they should be able to sort out the correct spacers for whatever wheel you get (PCB). I got a set of ZCW Force Shadow wheels. 16 x 6.5 and rated to carry a heavy van at 1150kg a corner. Well in excess of the standard Syncro spec. Don't know what weight is for 2wd. They only do them in 16" rims though.
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I had spacers already and didn't need them.
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janieh wrote:Hi All

We've got some alloys on the van that were fitted when we got it. It seems that they're not the right fitting. I've looked at the specs on the wiki and understand we need: PCD 5/112 and for the 15" x 7" wheels we have, the offset should be between ET 30 and 32. However we have ET23.

Ronal supplied 7X15 alloys with ET23 for use on Oettinger and Projektzwo vans so there's nothing wrong with that ET.
As yours are ET23 they could be Ronal alloys???

Less than 23 is a big no no on the front of a T25.

If you're intent on fitting some 17's ask the wheel supplier if the alloys and tyres are weight rated for 2 ton van.If they can't answer...walk away.

Also if not fitted already you will need longer rear studs and front bolts and possibly spacers as well.
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I got some really nice merc ones for mine, they are the spare wheel of a CLK
took me a little while to find them, just scoured Ebay - for a couple of months

look like this
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Fin wrote:I got some really nice merc ones for mine, they are the spare wheel of a CLK
took me a little while to find them, just scoured Ebay - for a couple of months

They look like nice wheels, though it's a little hard to see in that picture! to be honest I'm sick of it already - I just want to get it sorted and a few months searching the internet for old wheels is not something I need in my life right now! The current wheels are not right -the offset and I think the nuts are wrong. (we've nearly had several disasters with the wheel literally about to fall off!)

I just want to be able to buy some and get them fitted. is that too much to ask? (probably yes I guess..the joys of our unique vehicles!)
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Ronal supplied 7X15 alloys with ET23 for use on Oettinger and Projektzwo vans so there's nothing wrong with that ET.
As yours are ET23 they could be Ronal alloys???

Less than 23 is a big no no on the front of a T25.[/quote]

No, the current wheels are BBS ones. We've also had a right palaver trying to replace a missing centre cap which we've now given up on getting replaced.

To be honest we're getting to the point where we're being less fussy as we just want it sorted. I'd be happy with 16" wheels or even back to 15"! I've been looking at the SSP ones when I was down at the Brighton Breeze. http://www.vwheritage.com/ssp/SSP-Wheel ... -Bay/#5112

However, they're
Fitment: 5/112
Size: 5.5 x 15
Offset: ET12 or ET20

The offset makes me a bit concerned but they were adamant they fit ok. My understanding was this is too small, and we'd be better off with too big as that can be corrected by a spacer, whereas too small can't be. Is this right?
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janieh wrote:
No, the current wheels are BBS ones. We've also had a right palaver trying to replace a missing centre cap which we've now given up on getting replaced.

To be honest we're getting to the point where we're being less fussy as we just want it sorted. I'd be happy with 16" wheels or even back to 15"! I've been looking at the SSP ones when I was down at the Brighton Breeze. http://www.vwheritage.com/ssp/SSP-Wheel ... -Bay/#5112

However, they're
Fitment: 5/112
Size: 5.5 x 15
Offset: ET12 or ET20

The offset makes me a bit concerned but they were adamant they fit ok. My understanding was this is too small, and we'd be better off with too big as that can be corrected by a spacer, whereas too small can't be. Is this right?
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Please don't get less fussy and fit wheels that aren't suitable for a T25.
The wheels you mention which VWHeritage sell that have a PCD of 5X112 are designed for Bays and Splits.....and always have been!
Just because they have the same PCD as a T25 it doesn't mean they "fit"!

For example:
VW fitted 5.5X14 wheels to a T25 with an offset of ET39.
VWHeritage(and other alloy wheel "specialists!) "say" that the same width wheel they advertise with an offset of either ET12 or ET20 "fits" a T25 even though it will have either 19mm or 27mm less offset than the wheel designed to fit a T25 and which VW spent years developing!

They are not suitable for a T25....end of story!

As regards alloys with an high offset...yes you are right that this can be corrected(lowered) by fitting spacers.
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g60steve wrote:
Please don't get less fussy and fit wheels that aren't suitable for a T25.
The wheels you mention which VWHeritage sell that have a PCD of 5X112 are designed for Bays and Splits.....and always have been!
Just because they have the same PCD as a T25 it doesn't mean they "fit"!

For example:
VW fitted 5.5X14 wheels to a T25 with an offset of ET39.
VWHeritage(and other alloy wheel "specialists!) "say" that the same width wheel they advertise with an offset of either ET12 or ET20 "fits" a T25 even though it will have either 19mm or 27mm less offset than the wheel designed to fit a T25 and which VW spent years developing!

They are not suitable for a T25....end of story!

As regards alloys with an high offset...yes you are right that this can be corrected(lowered) by fitting spacers.

Thanks for the info. This is what I thought - it's pretty dodgy as they're actually advertising them as suitable for T25s. I shan't be using them then!

One gararge in Surbiton has recommended that we get Ronal R42s. They're not quite the look we were looking for (we wanted black) but they reckon they can get them to fit. At 16 x 6.5 they come in an ET40. That would mean we'd still need a spacer wouldn't it?

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10 mm spacer.. yes
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can anyone tell me why an offset of under et23 is bad for the t25 . my wheels are et15 on the front and et-9 on the rear. Im yet to take her for a spin as shes being painted. WHAT PROBLEMS MIGHT OCCUR WHEN IM DRIVING HER?
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"Wheels with a ET of less than 30 tend to stick out more and give the vehicle a feeling of not wanting to do much more than going in a straight line, wheel bearing load will be increased, steering will be heavy and the tyres will wear more on the inside edge......"

that was from Mr Baxter at Brickwerks.

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better save up for electric power steering then
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kevtherev wrote:"Wheels with a ET of less than 30 tend to stick out more and give the vehicle a feeling of not wanting to do much more than going in a straight line, wheel bearing load will be increased, steering will be heavy and the tyres will wear more on the inside edge......"

Ours are 23 and they do stick out at the front. The guy at the wheel shop took one look and said they were wrong. I don't have much to compare the driving to as we haven't owned a car for years till we got the van. However it doesn't feel great on corners! (we do have power steering though)
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bennwedge wrote: my wheels are et15 on the front and et-9 on the rear. Im yet to take her for a spin as shes being painted. WHAT PROBLEMS MIGHT OCCUR WHEN IM DRIVING HER?

ET15....a big no no because of the reasons Kev mentions.
As for -9.....just when you think you've heard it all!

Oh sod it....please fit them and post a photo up on here...please!

It will look a bit like...

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dunna worry by the time ben gets his van on the road.we will all be driving flying cars
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