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Re: P.T.O

Posted: 26 Mar 2014, 22:44
by Syncrobaz
Try a Harley !!!! :wink:

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 27 Mar 2014, 19:26
by max and caddy
Full marks Patrick...thinking of a hydraulic pump for log splitter and other similar implements..


Sybian is running a deltic engine...

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 07:02
by Fabzzz
lloydy wrote:Sybian machine?
Perv :wink:

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 07:18
by lloydy
Fabzzz wrote:
lloydy wrote:Sybian machine?
Perv :wink:
Proud of it too..

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 08:00
by Titus A Duxass
lloydy wrote:
Fabzzz wrote:
lloydy wrote:Sybian machine?
Perv :wink:
Proud of it too..

Me too - PAP! (Pervy and Proud).

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 09:09
by Aidan
surely ps pump simpler better way of getting hydraulic power with running engine
pto needs partial gearbox rebuild and modified prop and engine bars

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 17:55
by max and caddy
Aidan wrote:surely ps pump simpler better way of getting hydraulic power with running engine
pto needs partial gearbox rebuild and modified prop and engine bars

Using the PAS pump was my initial thoughts but after a bit of research It seems the output is not enough...both pressure wise as I'm after about 275 bar but also the flow rate needed is around 15 liters per min at that pressure..also the pas is a vane pump whereas any proper hydralics use a gear pump so strength could be an issue as could wear and belt slippage.

Seems a PTO is unobtainable but I'm still intrested...anyone know much about the setup? such as what output rpm would it give at engine speed of 1000 rpm, is drive disconnected when forward motion is engaged? Odis a standard agri PTO Uj fit onto it?

Any pics...how extensive are the mods required?

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 28 Mar 2014, 18:30
by jes*b
Last time I looked Miiko Oberschlacter in Finland had several for sale, 700e I think....

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 08:14
by Aidan
pto runs at reduction gear shaft speed which is roughly 3:1 reduction I'd have to count teeth to work it out exactly

the reduction gear shaft has to be swapped over and the nosecone with the output for it fitted, or if you buy a complete reduction gear housing with the PTO shaft and nosecone you just have to do the G gear shim measurements and swap the reduction gear housing and nose cone

look on ETKA you can see the parts, classic still have them new but eyewateringly expensive

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 08:20
by max and caddy
Ta Aidan...will have a look..I'm not going to spend loads on one but if one turned up at decent money I might have a play about..I'm assuming its engaged with the 3rd knob then?

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 08:23
by Fabzzz
PAP!! :mrgreen:

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 10:29
by silverbullet
Forth knob and cable actuation isn't it?

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 15:10
by Aidan
there's a couple of unused one's in the uk afaik, CJ had one on ebay about 3 years ago, I was outbid, don't know who got it, iirc was in Devon
Euro700upwards seems to be the price being asked abroad
and there's one powering the schwimwagen - wonder if that will ever appear in view anywhere ?

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 16:05
by Aidan
Reduction gear shaft runs at 1:3.44
mainshaft running engine speed 11 tooth drives idler gear 19 tooth drives reduction gear shaft 31 tooth in a 2 stage reduction

Re: P.T.O

Posted: 29 Mar 2014, 19:48
by max and caddy
700 yowros is too much...if it was a 150 I might be intrested but I could have a dumper or a a decent petrol powerpack for 700.

If anyone stumbles across one or parts of one bear me in mind.. :ok