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Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 27 Aug 2020, 21:55
by mike.g
I wouldn’t disagree with you there.
I think if I can get the finish right it could look good although it may look odd as it differs from the normal, expected dimensions.
In my head, I know how I want it to look, it just depends if I can make it work?
If I get it wrong, she’ll look a right pig in knickers 😂

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 27 Aug 2020, 22:00
by RogerT
Trigger’s broom?

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 28 Aug 2020, 05:59
by mike.g
RogerT wrote: 27 Aug 2020, 22:00 Trigger’s broom?

But with more heads and handles.....

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 28 Aug 2020, 19:57
by rollercoaster
Having junked the canvas tilt and frame off my Doka,
(no one wanted it even after extensive advertising)
I havent missed it at all, though I do love the canvas bed cover,
which also helps to keep the water off generally.

However what I do miss is a long roofrack,
which could be made as part of a tilt frame...

When thinking through the bulkhead and bed,
its well worth working out good drainage,
and method of attachment of canvas to the bulkhead.
 

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 07:21
by mike.g
One of my jobs to check over the weekend is to check whether the interior floor and the rear engine cover floor are the same profiling - I suspect they are but, bet to check.
If so, I’m going to get a floor replacement section so I can extend the rear load floor into my bulkhead, creating a void under the load floor which could be accessed from inside the cab, under the rear seat as it’s not practical to consider an external locker door due to the reduced side panel available.

It’s my intention when I have worked out the rear bulkhead to have a gutter rail fabricated which will go from side to side at the rear, effectively clearing the roof and reducing what goes in to the rear load floor and also if memory serves me well, the canvas roof somehow locks into it?

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 09:07
by rollercoaster
Yes it tucks into the gutter and is held down by fixings,
on mine it was tightened lower on the sides.
There must be different methods to choose from.
My canvas bed cover has a kind of awning rail to hold it,
which is not a bad idea, it was a good bodge.

You are welcome to the remains of my tilt,
uprights hoop and canvas I left in a barn in west Cornwall,
we are due a visit soon I might find them still there.

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 12:26
by mike.g
rollercoaster wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 09:07 Yes it tucks into the gutter and is held down by fixings,
on mine it was tightened lower on the sides.
There must be different methods to choose from.
My canvas bed cover has a kind of awning rail to hold it,
which is not a bad idea, it was a good bodge.

You are welcome to the remains of my tilt,
uprights hoop and canvas I left in a barn in west Cornwall,
we are due a visit soon I might find them still there.

I’d be most grateful as even if they are significantly different and I couldn’t use them, at least I could see how it was all supposed to fit together so I could replicate it - I’m guessing I’d be able to use the top half of the frame, regardless?
Where I’m west cornwall, I’m in Hayle....

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 12:35
by mike.g
A morning spent pondering and trying to work out how to sort out the side sections and cap them.
I think I’m going to cap them just above the swage line which is going to be fiddly due to the rear section where the vent is ( I also need to somehow introduce more air into the engine bay!!).

Once capped and structurally sound, I’m probably going to make ‘overcaps’ that will have the female receivers for the canvas frame and these will be galvanised and riveted I’m giving it that factory/industrial look?

Also, I had to remove the new floor and insulation so the bulkhead and rear floor can be welded when needed.

Then to try and sort out a tailgate.......


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Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 16:33
by rollercoaster
It should all work out in the end.

The tilt is not too far from you, but I need to find it myself,
and we could drop it over to you, but it may be a while away..
We had planned a trip about now, but life has a way of changing things.

If I was making something for my Doka, one day maybe..
would think aluminium scaff and key clamp fittings would be best.
Like the idea of versatility and adjustability. Plus easy removal.
Linking to similar kind of roof rails made of scaffold too.
Probably overkill, but the tilt frame was that size tube too.

You are most likely to come up with your own idea, as you do.
You may see that often in pictures the tilts are higher than the roof.
Also restricting the rear vision a lot.

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 16:50
by rollercoaster
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Think its a military thing,
had gun holders inside it looked like.
Steel uprights, wooden slats, ally poles..

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 19:02
by SurfT25
Hi Mike.g
Excellent work your doing, inspiring.
You mention about "more air for your engine" and couldn't help but notice this in the photo rollercoaster sent.Image
Are these vents for the engine?
Hope this helps
Peter

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 19:42
by mike.g
If I’m right, those are the standard vents on the Doka? As I’ve removed the upper vents from the rear, I’m guessing that I’ll have to find some way of introducing more air into the engine bay?

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 19:46
by mike.g
rollercoaster wrote: 29 Aug 2020, 16:33 It should all work out in the end.

The tilt is not too far from you, but I need to find it myself,
and we could drop it over to you, but it may be a while away..
We had planned a trip about now, but life has a way of changing things.

If I was making something for my Doka, one day maybe..
would think aluminium scaff and key clamp fittings would be best.
Like the idea of versatility and adjustability. Plus easy removal.
Linking to similar kind of roof rails made of scaffold too.
Probably overkill, but the tilt frame was that size tube too.

You are most likely to come up with your own idea, as you do.
You may see that often in pictures the tilts are higher than the roof.
Also restricting the rear vision a lot.

Anything you have will be gratefully received!
I think I’m going to have my canvas roof hopefully follow the profile of the cab roof, if possible as I think it would look cleaner but, I think some of it may be dictated by how easy or practical it actually is to do?

To be fair, it’s a long way off 😂

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 20:04
by rollercoaster
Others may say different, but I dont think the tilt is much use.
Far better to concentrate on a bed cover instead.
If you happen to need to cover something big you are carrying,
then just do that ad hock at the time.
That is unless you plan to carry a regular load, or a dog, in the back.

Before you were talking bulkhead I was imagining a landau..
is that the right word? Like an old fashioned limousine,
with the driver in a cab at the front,
but an elaborate pram style convertible over the rear passengers.
 

Re: Rusty roof chop

Posted: 29 Aug 2020, 21:58
by SurfT25
Excuse my interference mike.g
But could it be possible to put vent (red)for engine at centre pillars with diagonal pipes (yellow) to engine bay between panels and structure ?
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Sorry for rough drawing .