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silverbullet wrote: 24 Jun 2021, 07:47 There is ethanol in diesel too I think?
Just to clarify, ethanol is alcohol (think vodka), biodiesel is similar to modified vegetable oil (think cooking oil). Completely different stuff, the only connection being that they are both of vegetable origin. Bugs just love to munch on damp cooking oil, hence the sludge created by the diesel bug.
 
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Its OK if E5 will still be available hopefully at all stations, I find that when I get to a station for a refill selecting the correct queue is sometimes a pain, as you run the risk of having waited behind a line that when its your turn you find its pay at pump only, not E5, or has run out.  Run out is more visible by its cap over the pump.  Am i missing something or is there a more visible indication before you commit yourself to a line.  OK for your regular station where you know the layout but a bit more awkward when out for trip away and need to fill up.
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AngeloEvs wrote: 23 Jun 2021, 20:31 I also read that E10 can make starting more difficult on vehicles that aren’t used regularly. If that is true, then owners who mainly use their vans late Spring to Autumn would be advised to use E5 at least for a few weeks before laying their vans up.

I filled up on E10 a few years ago in Germany by accident. The van ran ok but felt down on power. Come the next morning it was a pain to get started. I pulled in at the next services I encountered and brimmed it with super and all was well again. Whether or not it would need to be timed/tuned to work with E10 I am unsure? Either way, stick to Super, it's not much more and if you're worried about fuel costs why did you buy a WBX?  :lol:
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Mine runs mostly on LPG and I am not concerned by the forthcoming change to fuel types, I posted to let owners who lay their vans up for long periods that there may be a problem with starting if using E10. If I was concerned I would have sold my van and benefitted from the crazy prices being asked for them during the pandemic...... :D
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https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels/petrol

Most ‘super’ unleaded, 97,99 etc, will remain at an ethanol content of 0-5% so is your easy, albeit more expensive option. If running solely on this you may want to tweak timing slightly.

Other reports I’ve seen suggest Germany has been using E10 fuel for many years and most T25 owners have had little problems, assuming fuel lines are correct and in good order.
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Hello,

for what it is worth....... :wink:

Living in France I have been running e10 super 98 RON for the past 15 years in my Air-Cooled, Solex carb T3.

All the fuel lines get done, (just the flexy bits) every couple of years when I change the petrol filter..

Never a problem... never an issue...

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I suppose the ultimate solution is to replace the fuel hoses instead of worrying about putting E10 fuel in.  Went to Morrisons today to put some petrol in and relieved that the line I was in had an E5 Pump, although I did walk the line to check in advance.  Spoke to the cashier and asked when E10 was being introduced and if the pumps would be marked in advance to save queuing at the wrong place, I think she understood me although others in the queue were chuntering away about what on earth I was talking about. The cashier said they are not using it yet.  Anyway how do we know that the pump signs will be updated to reflect E10 before the underground tanks are filled with it.
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Good evening, long time lurker here :D

Hopefully my bus details are in my signature but in case they're not I have a '85 1.9DG autobox (wbx) Holdsworth 💗

My fuel lines are less than 2 years old but after having issues starting, reading all the advice on here, squirted fuel into the carb and he started straight away. On checking the fuel lines straight after, noticed that one of them was wet.  It had a 'fabric' (?) outer sleeve but the inside had cracked and perished. Thank god we noticed!

So I want to replace the fuel lines: I have metal pipes/lines from tank through to the filter under the bus, plastic to and from the filter, metal and then plastic to another filter, plastic from there to the pump, plastic from pump to carb.

I saw the Wiki on changing the lines, however this is from 2009 and I wondered if there was any up to date advice on what are the best lines to get, taking the new E10 fuel into consideration?

Secondly, I've never been 100% comfortable with the extra filter that sits on the engine - is it necessary? Obviously I will replace the in line filter, but should I have a second filter?

Thirdly, and excuse the novice question, are all the lines the same diameter? Do I have to take them all off to measure before I can order? Is it easier to get a kit?

Many thanks for your help (in advance!!)
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I suggest brickwerks for the fuel pipes. The fuel filter in the engine bay is unnecessary get rid. 
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You should only need to replace the rubber pipes , so buying the kit is expensive for what works out to be just over a meter normally , however as you describe metal pipes and too many filters , possibly it would be sensible for you to buy the kit this once and then you know ecaxtly what you need to buy to replace just the rubber pipes when they next need replacing .

I check mine everytime I have the engine lid off , which is at least every 6 to 8 weeks when I check the coolant pipes , header tank level and generally inspect the noisy bit .
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Replaced all my fuel lines including return last week using this .
https://www.ebay.co.uk/ipp/282751891409 ... 675.l48352

 
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can you still use e10 petrol inyour van . mine is a t25 1984 1.9 wbx or do you have to use the dearer petrol, cheers stokey,

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As long as your fuel pipes are E10 compliant you will be fine. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=174499
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Our local Sainsburys have the pumps marked with E10 on some off them.
If its not E10 I would have thought that it is not legal and should be covered up.
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nicq wrote: If its not E10 I would have thought that it is not legal and should be covered up.

If I recall correctly it will be like the diesel when they increased the bio content.

E10 simply means it can contain up to 10%, so quite legal to have that on a pump still with E5 fuel.


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