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Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 25 May 2012, 11:36
by Pudsey1975
I think I overfilled the tank, fuel poured onto the forecourt (well about a half a pint did). I normally fill a tank until it goes click. Feel really think as i am now sitting in the petrol station waiting for hubby to check it out. Is this normal or does something need replacing? Have read about breather pipes but do they leak petrol when overfilled?

Thanks, any advice would be appeciated!

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 25 May 2012, 11:59
by cascais
theres loads about this on this site,im no expert but looks like the top of your tank could be getting a bit rusty,there are seals that perish over time.mine does the same,ive had a spillage on a forecourt,thing is it was in portugal and the temp was pretty high.so i got a bit nervous,esp when the locals sometimes dont take the no smoking rule to seriously.i now fill tank to 3/4.

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 25 May 2012, 12:44
by 1664
Could be a number of issues - tank rotted through, worn seals, split pipes, rotten fuel filler neck....

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 25 May 2012, 14:09
by armyphil
1664 wrote:Could be a number of issues - tank rotted through, worn seals, split pipes, rotten fuel filler neck....


Or she missed the hole

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 25 May 2012, 14:15
by ermie571
armyphil wrote:
1664 wrote:Could be a number of issues - tank rotted through, worn seals, split pipes, rotten fuel filler neck....


Or she missed the hole


"Living on the edge" the latest epsidoe of Phil's life..... :rofl

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 25 May 2012, 19:00
by Pudsey1975
armyphil wrote:
1664 wrote:Could be a number of issues - tank rotted through, worn seals, split pipes, rotten fuel filler neck....


Or she missed the hole

Cheeky!!!!

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 26 May 2012, 12:39
by Ian Hulley
armyphil wrote:
1664 wrote:Could be a number of issues - tank rotted through, worn seals, split pipes, rotten fuel filler neck....


Or she missed the hole

*sniggers*

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 26 May 2012, 20:02
by AdrianC
Pudsey1975 wrote:Have read about breather pipes but do they leak petrol when overfilled?

Definitely!

Ours did exactly the same as yours - peed a bit when filled to the click, then stopped. I replaced the pipes from the tank breathers to the expansion tanks in the wheelarches - less than a metre of fuel pipe needed, cut it to length yourself - and it's stopped it completely.

It may be a rotten tank, of course, or leaky grommets or any of a few other things that need the tank dropping. But for the sake of a quid or two and an hour, it's worth replacing those first. The rear ones are MUCH easier if you put a drop of washing-up liquid on the pipe before you try to fit it. Get your arm in as far as it'll go, and you'll feel where it needs to fit.

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 27 May 2012, 22:29
by Pudsey1975
AdrianC wrote:
Pudsey1975 wrote:Have read about breather pipes but do they leak petrol when overfilled?

Definitely!

Ours did exactly the same as yours - peed a bit when filled to the click, then stopped. I replaced the pipes from the tank breathers to the expansion tanks in the wheelarches - less than a metre of fuel pipe needed, cut it to length yourself - and it's stopped it completely.

It may be a rotten tank, of course, or leaky grommets or any of a few other things that need the tank dropping. But for the sake of a quid or two and an hour, it's worth replacing those first. The rear ones are MUCH easier if you put a drop of washing-up liquid on the pipe before you try to fit it. Get your arm in as far as it'll go, and you'll feel where it needs to fit.

Thank you

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 20:39
by Nick T
AdrianC wrote:
Pudsey1975 wrote:Have read about breather pipes but do they leak petrol when overfilled?

Definitely!

Ours did exactly the same as yours - peed a bit when filled to the click, then stopped. I replaced the pipes from the tank breathers to the expansion tanks in the wheelarches - less than a metre of fuel pipe needed, cut it to length yourself - and it's stopped it completely.

It may be a rotten tank, of course, or leaky grommets or any of a few other things that need the tank dropping. But for the sake of a quid or two and an hour, it's worth replacing those first. The rear ones are MUCH easier if you put a drop of washing-up liquid on the pipe before you try to fit it. Get your arm in as far as it'll go, and you'll feel where it needs to fit.
Just had this myself tonight. Filled it to the brim for the first time, it leaked out about half a litre then stopped. Will have a good look through the Haynes to see which pipes go where and see if that's the culprit before I grit my teeth and order a new tank :(

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 21:10
by Fin
If you go to a friendly main dealer - they can print you off the parts diagrams for this....

also look here
http://wiki.club8090.co.uk/index.php/Fu ... r_Problems" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

here found the tank diagrams on wiki...
http://wiki.club8090.co.uk/index.php/Fu ... ther_tanks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

here's when I did mine - took the tank out - but you don't have to....
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Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 21:11
by mark
Nick T wrote:Just had this myself tonight. Filled it to the brim for the first time, it leaked out about half a litre then stopped. Will have a good look through the Haynes to see which pipes go where and see if that's the culprit before I grit my teeth and order a new tank

it's doable, if you have large hands push until it hurts and you can just feel the rear spigot (when you have managed to remove the stuck like glue old ones, lots of wiggeling) i put olive oil on the spigot and drizzle in the pipe also had the pipe sat in boiling water, sounds like a recipe :lol: sorted my old lady's unforunate dribblings

mark

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 00:24
by Nicola&Tony
Fin wrote:here's when I did mine - took the tank out - but you don't have to....
Image

That's a useful photo, thanks for posting that. How easy / difficult is it to remove the tank, is there only two bolts to undo?

Tony

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 20:59
by Vaniller
Nicola&Tony wrote:
Fin wrote:here's when I did mine - took the tank out - but you don't have to....
Image

That's a useful photo, thanks for posting that. How easy / difficult is it to remove the tank, is there only two bolts to undo?

Tony
Dropping the tank is easy. Two bolts to release the brackets, then pull off all the breathers and fuel filler pipe. Helps if you put the front of the van up on axle stands if you want to crawl under. Take the fuel feed and return line off, but one at a time so you can catch the fuel to drain the fuel out! And there is a wire on the fuel sender too that needs to come off.MOST IMPORTANT THING IS DISCONNECT THE BATTERY, JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. I found it helpful to lower the tank on a trolley jack...

Re: Help! Petrol all over the forecourt!!

Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 21:32
by edoh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpTDt2Z8MIQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BUT!!!

note comment - 5th down - :)