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I'll ask here rather than in the regular camping forum:

Wide necked water carriers (black, military) that will take a 12v shower pump. IIRC there is a brand name they are known by? Where to buy?

Also, any pump/shower recommendations and any other tips.

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silverbullet wrote: 13 Aug 2020, 18:57 I'll ask here rather than in the regular camping forum:

Wide necked water carriers (black, military) that will take a 12v shower pump. IIRC there is a brand name they are known by? Where to buy?

Also, any pump/shower recommendations and any other tips.

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Ian I have this for the shower - https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0744938XL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

And this is the perfect size for a decent shower, taking up little space - https://www.trackpack.co.uk/milestone-collapsible-camping-beverage-dispenser-blue-3-5l.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=&scid=scplp24820BR&sc_intid=24820BR&gclid=CjwKCAjwydP5BRBREiwA-qrCGu3NpkHfsY9QPkhqupZjGunuwFU7BCJwAyWZF5kvj96Cjc4t4gKknRoCspYQAvD_BwE

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I'll check those out. Neil reminded me that it's the Dutch military "Scepter" water carriers (US made?) that have the large opening.
Managed to snag one for £28+uk post which seems like a good price.
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Be wary of the cheap shower ones on ebay ie £12.99 or around there, bought one last year good pressure, used it a few times, drained and dried it after season, tried it this year and found motor had seized due to water ingress.  Took it apart and the whole motor was rusted and seized.
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I managed to save a 25ltr black plastic drum from a customers skip on monday. It's the cuboid shaped stackable type. Had been looking out for a black one for ages, most I've seen on building sites tend to be opaque or blue. It originally contained hydrochloric acid for cleaning concrete/stone/patios. Nasty stuff so will have to rinse and clean thoroughlying, multiple times! I have some litmus paper somewhere, will do bit of testing before and after.

The scepter container looks a lot neater mind you.

On a good sunny day I would expect the water temp will be very pleasant for use in the evening.

I have ordered a generic £20 12v shower from eBay. Some decent reviews although I'm not convinced any of them are genuine. Will let you know whether it's any good, if not I will have to fork out for a better quality model. For something that will be used very occasionally I'm hoping it will last if well looked after.
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TONYT25T25 wrote: 13 Aug 2020, 20:40 Be wary of the cheap shower ones on ebay ie £12.99 or around there, bought one last year good pressure, used it a few times, drained and dried it after season, tried it this year and found motor had seized due to water ingress.  Took it apart and the whole motor was rusted and seized.

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I avoided the cheapest available opting for a middle of the road £20. They all look to be the same though. I won't hold.my breathe for it lasting for too long!
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Hi, we are using these.

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Reasonable large opening and hold about 12L,
available with a solid or pierced screw cap, they also, fit under the rear seat.
A little more info here if you can get it to open (sorry still not fixed properly).

Don’t know if they're available in black.

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Needless to say, black is good because it doesnt allow algae to grow.
I'm having a little muse about making an aluminium flat "heat pad" to pre-warm water when driving: plumbed into the rear heater circuit, but allowing the water tank to be easily removed. Engines make a lot of waste heat, might as well try and use some of it and be able to have a warm shower after a long drive.
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We have all had these thoughts ..... but frankly , just boil the kettle , mix with cold water to taste! 

 
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I've been not getting around to devizing a shower for ages :roll:  having tried the shower bag and it working to some level I figure gravity is less likely to fail than a sub pump. 
I think i'll stick with black tank at height,  but try and introduce air pressure to help the flow - having an efficient easy op stop start for water would be good also.

And.. i'd sooner go without than buy from AmaXXX :evil:
 
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Steve, whilst I have nothing against the kettle as an example of engineering simplicity, why waste engine heat?
A solid/welded keel cooler type heat sink isnt difficult for me to make.
If I can raise 20 litres to say 50°C on a long journey, thats warm showers for two people after a day on the road. Got to worth ago.

James I like the idea of an aerator to make the water go further.
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Its an obvious source of energy Ian, but realistically you don't shower at the end of a drive - you tend to set up, sit down and relax for a hour - that said, there would still be warmth in the water which reduces the energy needed to bring temp up - and it could be used for other things (coffee, washing et) - and if it's easy for you to make and install, then it may aswell be done
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I know you're a fan of the "does more than one job" school of functionality, reckon this fits the bill as its also an indirect heat dump for the engine (might need to be thermostatically controlled?)
A semicircular snaking groove milled into an ali plate, with a mirror companion piece, TIG weld round the outside and two welded BSP connections for isolating valves.
Add a thermal jacket or insulated box (under rear seat) and it's done.
Free hot water has got to be worth having.
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Sidebar note: Dow Corning® SE 4420 has thermal conductivity of 0.92 W/m
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Here's a thought: could double as a slow cooker heat source.
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