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Rear damper top mounts. Petrol different to diesel iirc. Not sure if its documented in the wiki but if not, it should be!

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Aidan wrote:be aware the larger breather original semi hard grommet for the hole you've cut won't take the VW supplied new hose as the hose is now slightly bigger


thanks, ill test fit first :)

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silverbullet wrote:Rear damper top mounts. Petrol different to diesel iirc. Not sure if its documented in the wiki but if not, it should be!

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any idea what the difference is? I looked but I couldn't see anything obvious, though the mounts were rotten through on the syncro donor

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Aidan mentioned it to me iirc

Its a subtle difference but a genuine diesel shell will have different top brackets, tape measure comparison will reveal it

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In old money from centre of bolt to inside arch, diesel 9.25" to rear, 3.25" to top - petrol 8.75" and 2.50". Guess this is because the diesel has a spacer under the spring to compensate for heavier engine ??
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Nice one Baz.

Moving the damper top mount is a means to alter the effective damping rate, relative to the spring rate, with the same spec damper and spring.

As I see it:

With the T3 swingarm suspension, the more that the damper is "laid back" (not parallel to the nominal spring axis anyway) the less it has a rising rate and has more of a falling rate.

Because the monoblock springs are inherently rising rate anyway, the dampers are arranged like this to make them deliver the required ride characteristics i.e. a more compliant ride when lightly loaded.

The difference between the inline (diesel) and wbx engine weight isnt as much as you'd think, but the longer inline lump has greater leverage and so requires the altered mounting point to achieve the same ride quality.

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I wonder if wbx to tdi conversions include changing the mount ?
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I bet almost nobody knows/cares/bothers

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I very much dought anyone will change this on a conversion. To change it you will also have to open up tinware inside the engine bay as part of this mount is behind inner sheet steel. Most syncros are not using standard springs or shocks now aswell.

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I think I shall fall into the not gonna do it category :D

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Easier to pull the engine mounts off like this :)

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Bit of de- rusting before tank fitment

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First coat of paint of fuel tank bracket etc

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Sealed up ready for stone chip

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Small hole to address on the other corner , easy fix though

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Fuel tank strap mounts , I drilled the holes from the engine side but the oval holes seem to be correct :o

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Nice work as always Dave!
I didn’t know about the bump stops being longer, missed that detail on my Syncro conversion.
Good job with the centre cross member panel, that is the same way I did mine as I didn’t want to disturb the Westy interior.
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AIR_CHILLED wrote:Nice work as always Dave!
I didn’t know about the bump stops being longer, missed that detail on my Syncro conversion.
Good job with the centre cross member panel, that is the same way I did mine as I didn’t want to disturb the Westy interior.

Thanks :) , the extra time I now have is making me more particular than I would be under normal circumstances

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diesel battery tray coming out :)

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going in

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they are held in by stitch welds, seems overkill but I like welding downhill in corners 8)

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rear engine mounts going in

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bit of paint to make it pretty

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