Upper Wishbone - which bushes to use....?

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Upper Wishbone - which bushes to use....?

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Hello

I was wondering if anyone could advise on which wishbone bushes to use or their experiences with what they fitted.

My options from Bricky are....

1 - Wishbone Bush - T3 / Upper / Alternative - https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/t ... ative.html

2 - Wishbone Bush - T3 / Upper / OEM (currently not recommended for fitting to Syncros) - https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/t ... upper.html

3 - Upper Wishbone Bush - T3 / Powerflex - https://www.brickwerks.co.uk/t3-parts/t ... thane.html


I had been leaning towards the Powerflex kit until I read thisthread on the Samba

On thispage Simon talks about the poly kit vs lemforder which has made me think twice about using it.

any thoughts much appreciated

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Samba article is from 2011...have the polybushes been changed or redesigned in that time?

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If you don't go poly bush deffo go Lemforder, I tried the cheaper Brickwerks Febi ones on my tin top and they still groan a bit, the Lemforder on my pop top are silent.
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silverbullet wrote:Samba article is from 2011...have the polybushes been changed or redesigned in that time?

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good point not sure, I have emailed Michael too...

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itchyfeet wrote:If you don't go poly bush deffo go Lemforder, I tried the cheaper Brickwerks Febi ones on my tin top and they still groan a bit, the Lemforder on my pop top are silent.

thats great to know, many thanks :mrgreen:

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Powerflex on the syncro.
I have no experience with others but my old ones squeaked and now they don't with powerflex.
Brickworks are constantly updating the powerflex bushes I believe.
Gearbox and front diff mounts have recently been upgraded to reduce vibration and noise transfer.
(Although I am going to swap mine back as a test at some point, but that has nothing to do with this thread... Sorry)

The upper wishbone powerflex bushes are really well made in my opinion.
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for me rubber everytime, compliant & less stress on the components, except the steering rack bushes where the stiffness helps; if they don't need changing don't change them

it's a shame that genuine of the period rubber parts are mostly nla as what is made now, like the cv boots etc.. is pants by comparison with the original stuff

Meyle stuff doesn't last on a syncro in my experience

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Cheers Bene & Aidan....I took one side off to clean up today, original bushes

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They seem firm and still in solid in the arm so maybe its best to leave it, but is it still working well after 33 years? Bolt and washers were also in good condition too.

I spoke with Bricky and Michael who said he fitted a Febi pair to his 2Wd and they were fine, they also said that they I know Powerflex changed the sleeves a few years ago, but they are still not really an upgrade on the standard ones.

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The Lemfoerder ones are now made in Turkey and as such the quality has slipped, we currently have several sets that have been returned to them for examination as they appear to be .5mm undersize meaning that they are loose in the cast upper syncro arms.
We won't fit Lemfoerder here, we'd fit the Febi ones as they are the correct OD to fit into the cast arms and stay tight.
There is a note on the webshop with words to that effect.
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Simon Baxter wrote:The Lemfoerder ones are now made in Turkey and as such the quality has slipped, we currently have several sets that have been returned to them for examination as they appear to be .5mm undersize meaning that they are loose in the cast upper syncro arms.
We won't fit Lemfoerder here, we'd fit the Febi ones as they are the correct OD to fit into the cast arms and stay tight.
There is a note on the webshop with words to that effect.


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