Relay 292, a technical study.

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Re: Relay 292, a technical study.

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Good find! I'll be doing that mod :ok

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Robsey wrote: 11 Oct 2020, 10:58 I know it is a few weeks since the last post, but I thought that I would put my spin on this.

I will be using a non-VW part for my lights on alarm.
(Boo hiss from the puritans...)

I am using a GM lights on warning two-tone "warbler".

The sound is not as harsh as a standard buzzer, and also less likely to scare you into thinking that the buzzer of doom is sounding.

And the bonus is, it only sounds with the ignition off.
So it will stay quiet when opening and closing doors with the ignition on / engine running, such as on the school run or letting a passenger out to have a pee on the hard shoulder of the motorway. - you get the idea...

The relay is quite tall, but otherwise fits a standard slot.

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Only three wires needed.

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1 - Pin 15 = Ignition live, such as on plug G pin 2. (black wire).

2 - Pin 30 = un-dimmed side / tail / number plate light such as on plug G pin 9 (grey and green wire).

3 - Pin 31b = to the driver's door "dip switch' in the A pillar (brown and white wire).

Job done - and no faff with the other van relays or their wiring.

This sounds like a great solution.  Can you share a few pics of the final installation? 
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I am nowhere near fitting this yet...
My van is in the very early stages of restoration.

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But it is only three wires so very easy to wire up.
The relay / warbler is marked up as in the picture above.
One wire for ignition live. (Pin 15)
One for lights on. (Pin 30)
One for the door dip-switch. (Pin 31b)

The fusebox connector pins in the post above, are for the later (CE1) fusebox.
But I am sure the early euro-torpedo fusebox will have an ignition live and a side / tail light live feed that you could tap into.

Here is the wiring diagram in VW ladder format.

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Re: Relay 292, a technical study.

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I picked up one of these GM warbler relays from eBay for £3.  Wired it in while I had the dash out which gave me a bit more space to work in.  Works a treat, very happy with it.  
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Excellent news -
Simple but effective in my opinion.

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Robsey wrote: 24 Oct 2020, 12:16 I am nowhere near fitting this yet...
My van is in the very early stages of restoration.

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But it is only three wires so very easy to wire up.
The relay / warbler is marked up as in the picture above.
One wire for ignition live. (Pin 15)
One for lights on. (Pin 30)
One for the door dip-switch. (Pin 31b)

The fusebox connector pins in the post above, are for the later (CE1) fusebox.
But I am sure the early euro-torpedo fusebox will have an ignition live and a side / tail light live feed that you could tap into.

Here is the wiring diagram in VW ladder format.

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Hi Robsey
Looked at this. Looks good, but do you lose the fuctionality of the Door Contact Switch to operate the interior light?
How easy is it to get a  new wire to the switch?
Cheers!
Pete
 

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No not at all.

You just use a piggy back / dual female spade connector. One contact for the existing interior light connector.
And one for the lights-on buzzer.

That is how it is fitted on Vauxhalls.
1983 Tin Top with a poorly DF and 4 speed DT box.
1987 Electrics and a DJ engine.
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Oh, ok. I thought that might be the case but I was misled by your wiring diagram which doesn't show any links to the rest of the lighting circuit.
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Hi Pete,

It is drawn like that to keep it simple.
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I wired mine like this with a cab light for each door:

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My van leaves the sidelights on when the ignition is off and the indicators are switched on, on the side the indicator is switched to. I wired the light feed from the nearside sidelight feed as I have a habit of indicating and pulling over to the side of the road and then leaving the indicator on when I turn off the ignition and get out, hence sidelight stays on. Now the buzzer alerts me to that.

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