Damaged pop-top roof - newbie looking for advice!

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Damaged pop-top roof - newbie looking for advice!

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Hi all,

As the title suggests I'm completely new to the world of T25 ownership (and this forum) having bought Gloria, our sweet yellow '83 Viking roof dream-van 3 weeks ago.

It's the first van we've ever owned, the first I've ever driven and I feel absolutely ridiculous and gutted to have to say this but earlier today I thought, wrongly, that I had enough height clearance to make it into a car park! Of course, I didn't and that daft mistake that has left me with a nasty scratch on our once flawless roof.

You can see where this is going right?

We live really close to Kent VW in Margate who I'm happy to take it in to if need be but I'm wondering if this is something that be fixed if you're ok with DIY?

Here's the damage.....

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Like I say I can't find much online as to what products to use so any help, hints, feedback would be really appreciated.

Not the way I saw my first post being but hey, here's to a brighter future in Club 80-90!!!

Cheers all,
Glenn

 
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That is more than cosmetic as it has delaminated, try some boatyards that deal with fibreglass boats - they may be able to help more than a garage. There may be a vehicle repairer locally that deals with fibreglass shells but I wouldn't hold my breath whilst looking if I were you. For a proper strong repair you will need to get to both sides.
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it’s non structural and it’s not exactly delaminated , you could quite readily fix that with fibreglass filler , or white gel coat , white resin , it’s not difficult to repair

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You have 2 choices - bodge it as above or do it correctly and regain the strength and integrity of the whole.
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I guess something like this will always have different responses and I appreciate what you're both saying, so thank you both.

Never thought of the boating guys being an option but it totally makes sense and well worth considering, especially as we're on the coast. I always like the idea of fixing something myself but the reality is we want to give the van a lot of love so the next step will be calling the garage first thing to see what they suggest...having never worked with fibreglass before I can't see me being able to pull off a decent finish!

I had another look before it got dark and it doesn't seem to have gone right through, to be on the safe side though we've covered the van in case of rain. As for the structural integrity, I can't comment as didn't know how the roof felt before.

I'm just so cheesed off at myself and this potentially costly lapse of concentration. You live you learn eh?

Thanks again!


 

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Oldiebut goodie wrote: 02 Aug 2020, 19:47 You have 2 choices - bodge it as above or do it correctly and regain the strength and integrity of the whole.

It’s not a bodge as it’s a surface scratch

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Its always worth trying it yourself, however if not experienced and have no access to the correct equipment, asking a professional to have a look at it and giving some advice would not hurt.  Part of the joy if you can call it that of owning one of these vehicles is to have a crack at it yourself after researching.  There will be lots of opportunities in other areas to exercise that.
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davidoft1 wrote: 02 Aug 2020, 21:02
Oldiebut goodie wrote: 02 Aug 2020, 19:47 You have 2 choices - bodge it as above or do it correctly and regain the strength and integrity of the whole.

It’s not a bodge as it’s a surface scratch

Are you on something that has affected your vision? There is no way that is a surface scratch, a surface scratch would not run down the vertical plane like that. The cracked fibres can be clearly seen.

OP - You can believe which version that you think best.   ( I wouldn't go to sea in a fibreglass boat that has a surface scratch like that :lol: )
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Oldiebut goodie wrote: 02 Aug 2020, 22:39
davidoft1 wrote: 02 Aug 2020, 21:02
Oldiebut goodie wrote: 02 Aug 2020, 19:47 You have 2 choices - bodge it as above or do it correctly and regain the strength and integrity of the whole.

It’s not a bodge as it’s a surface scratch

Are you on something that has affected your vision? There is no way that is a surface scratch, a surface scratch would not run down the vertical plane like that. The cracked fibres can be clearly seen.

OP - You can believe which version that you think best.   ( I wouldn't go to sea in a fibreglass boat that has a surface scratch like that :lol: )

No problem with my vision, perhaps I’m not a drama queen and actually know some stuff

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Strength will be affected but only slightly. Personally I would heavily sand off both sides of the roof and all of gel coat and 6-10 inches either side. Then clean it. Dig out any loose then using resin and fibreglass mat neatly repack the crack the over lay to bond. Sand it off when dry and clean it. Then reapply gel coat.

Or you could try casting resin and chopped up fibres and talcum powder to create a paste to fill. Gel coat.

Or get a quote from boat yard/fibreglass roofing company etc.


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Hello,

With or without a Cummings eye test.... :lol:

That is a well damaged roof, which will not get better all by itself... :(

I bought an accident damaged pop top last year, and finally got round to repairing it this Spring.

I used a yacht repair kit from West glass...about €50 from Internet.

With the help of You Tube, I was able to fix the roof ...no prior experience... :shock:

The finish was done with Rustoleum paint.

When I get my big computer back I can post pics if you like..

What particularly struck me was how fragile the GF panel was when damaged, and how strong after repair..

For future tranquillity, I would suggest mounting the radio antenna at the front of the roof.....if it scrapes..it won't go through.. :wink:

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Well at least you scraped it in the middle where the fiberglass is thicker.
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Look for a mobile glass fibre repair bloke in your area, there are plenty in Sussex/Hampshire because there are plenty of boats so there must be some in Kent.

Generally not that bad £££ wise and results can be invisible, at least for the first few years.

Obviously a repair will still be shiny when the surrounding area has gone flat and needs buffing, buffing or polishing the whole lots solves this.
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Thanks so much for your feedback, all. It's really appreciated. I've had it looked at and am reassured/relieved to learn that structurally it's still ok. A gash is a gash though and I'll be getting it sorted ASAP. The mobile fibre glass repair option is a great shout.....I'll have a look into that as what I've been quoted is a bit of a stinger, albeit kind of expected.

It's all part of the process and hey, it definitely won't happen again. Like I say, I'm new to this so a few bumps are to be expected.

Thanks again!
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Hello Glenn,
Im in Margate too. Happy to help in any way l can.
If you think this task is beyond your capability my suggestion is to visit a place in Ramsgate marina making moulds for fibreglass vessels. There's is one by the arches with the cafes etc.
Personal l would attack the damage from both sides. Have you viewed internally yet?
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