Various locks and keys question

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Re: Sliding door lock key question.

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Good Morning All,
I have new wafers & springs and can rebuild locks to match existing keys.
If you need my help please feel free to PM me or email brendanetheridge at hotmail.com
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Brendan

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Re: Sliding door lock key question.

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Well a bit of an update -
It appears that I have a type B glove box lock.

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Here is ours...

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Sadly no key to fit it.
And I have no idea what profile.
Catcar lists three different profiles.
111 837 219A - S73 = profile SC
111 837 219A - S74 = profile SU
111 837 219A - S75 = profile SV

As the wife says - The fact that nothing is as expected or should be "adds to the quirkiness of the van"
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Soon to have a whizzy 1987 DJ.

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Re: Various locks and keys question

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You might have to dismantle the lock further to get the number off the barrel...... if it is marked at all.
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Re: Various locks and keys question

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With the help of YouTube and Covkid I recently referred my locks so they all fit the 1 key. I've still to do the ignition and fuel cap (ordering a new fuel cap soon) and I can honestly say yes a really easy job. The major problem I had is that 2 of the barrels were so badly corroded the brass wafers were not coming out for love nor money.

Thus, I need a new barrel for the sliding door. Is the image above of a slider barrel and if so, where are they purchased from?

As a side note, locks rebuilt with new wafers feel bloody marvellous when you insert a key, it's a job well worth doing.
Why would the glass be anything other than half full?

'89 panel van, 1.9 DG.

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I have refurbished my cab door locks with moderate ease.
The front passenger lock is okay. Could do with two wafers and four springs to get a full repair.

The passenger lock - all gummed up and seized together.

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The drivers door lock barrel cleaned up easily and was in good overall condition.

Driver's door lock before stripping.

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The sliding door lock barrel refused to budge.
I even drilled out the retaining grub-screw to no avail.
So for me - it is as good as scrap.

I could not find any numbers stamped or engraved on any of my wafers from the cab doors, but I am sure that I can suss out which ones I need.

The ignition lock and tailgate lock are fine, so I will just clean and lube them.

As for stuff flying out in all directions.
I found that I had to help most of the wafers out of the barrel... and every single spring needed to be teased out of it's bore.
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I think to get the lock barrel out of my sliding door handle I had to turn the key so it was unlocked for it to slide out.

If I recall right anyway, mighta just been muck in it for all I know though.

After getting new locks for my van I found it quite a nice job to do in an odd way.
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Re: Various locks and keys question

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Stesaw wrote: 11 Jan 2021, 00:46 I think to get the lock barrel out of my sliding door handle I had to turn the key so it was unlocked for it to slide out.

That is another problem with my lock barrel.
It is so seized up, that I can barely get the key all the way in, nevermind get it to turn.

I may just go for an aftermarket handle, and get some wafers to fit.

As soon as I can see how many of each wafer number I will need.

As mentioned by so many people.
The removal, cleaning and configuring of the wafers is super easy...
But only if you have a serviceable lock barrel that you can get out and work with.
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Maybe sit it in some petrol for 24 hours, might get the gunk moving, unless it's rusted solid.
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Stesaw wrote: 11 Jan 2021, 23:09 Maybe sit it in some petrol for 24 hours, might get the gunk moving, unless it's rusted solid.

I left mine submerged in petrol for days to no avail.  Whatever the crud is, it's solid and no easily dissolved.
Why would the glass be anything other than half full?

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I think I'm correct in saying original wafers aren't numbered.  The only way to identify them is to compare them with aftermarket ones (these have a number stamped on them).
Why would the glass be anything other than half full?

'89 panel van, 1.9 DG.

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