Drive flange oil seal

[clone123]

Hi boys and girls just wondering before I start to strip it down if any of you have Managed to replace the oil seal on the drive flange without the special tools vw391 and vw681 Required As you can see from that picture I need to change mine

[ZsZ]

Yes, the seal can be changed without special tools but it is a bit PITA. 
Prying out the old seal can be difficult, you can use two screws screwn into the seal and pull it with pliers. But be careful you can damage the bearing behind the seal.
Tapping the new seal with a hammer and some dolly in is the easiest part.
You may have to tap a speedi-sleeve on to the flange too.

[davidoft1]

By a seal pulling tool on
eBay for a fiver , it’s pretty much a hook , getting them out with a screwdrivers pretty straightforward

[davidoft1]

This sort of thing

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/113249607992

[clone123]

OK cheers for the replys but Isn't the flange Spring loaded And that's why you need the tool to push the flange back in so you can get the circlip out so the spring is easy to push back then

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[ZsZ]

No they are not spring loaded, however the circlip is a special one, needs flat nose circlip pliers like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Knipex-4510170-S ... B003UHUCQM

[clone123]

OK thanks for that

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[ZsZ]

And there is a belleville conical spring washer under the circlip that pushes the flange inwards.

[clone123]

Just read that on another Web site it said to put the curclip on tap the flange with a rubber mallet that must be to compress the spring your on about to get the curclip on properly thanks again

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[clone123]

I don't have to drain the gearbox oil do I

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[ZsZ]

It will sweep some oil out but no need to drain fully.

[clone123]

Just fitted the new seal but not so sure its the right one Seem to go into the gearbox to easy without any resistance pushed in with my fingers is this right the old one Seemed to have a lot more Resistance when taking out double check my order and it does say its for a 4/5 speed gearbox

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[Aidan]

I use a press to put the seals in normally, in situ I use a tube with a closed end and a 1Kg brass hammer, and I oil the seal outer first so it doesn't pick up or grab, you must have very strong fingers
the JK ones go in very slightly easier than the Elring ones from Brickwerks but not much difference

[clone123]

OK thanks I always coat the seals with oil before install them i have never had a seal on anything go in so easy and I have been working on cars for 40 years on and off my 8 year old grandson could of pushed it in and that's no joke I got them from Heritage the topran ones I think I'm going to order a few Different types to see which fits the best or before I fit a Speedy sleeve. Just order the Elring ones cheers

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[clone123]

Cheers Aidan you don't no what make the JK ones are do you it doesn't say on the website

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