Recon 1.9 wbx 1984 DF Engine code

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Recon 1.9 wbx 1984 DF Engine code

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Hi, before too long I'm hoping to put a like for like recon engine in the van.i was wondering the approximate labour hours involved in the swap if all went fairly smoothly,thanks, 1984 westy poptop 1.9 wbx DF

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How long is a piece of string ..... 
if you are lucky and all goes well , £1000 isn’t far off for garage time .
you are looking for a good 8 hours I would think .

you do realise that all WBX engines are interchangeable , so you don’t need to restrict yourself to a df , you could fit a DJ , or  DG , Or any other of the others , everything is bolt on and the casings are the same , although the DF is the only WBX with a solex carb , and there for a slightly different inlet manifold and a couple of different water pipes .
if you buy a complete DG from a early water system van it will just plumb straight in to your van 
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Funnily enough, I did think, how long is a piece of string!! Surely eight hours labour would be £400 @£50 per hour which our local camper man charges up here in n.wales. Anyway, having recovered from the shock of your initial estimate,if I changed to a DG would i then have to change carburetor and manifold. I was thinking to keep it simple but a DG would have a little bit more power and a touch more economical?

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Yeah 8 hours would be drop the old , put in the new , but not including swapping bits over from one to the other , and we all know how long just one exhaust stud can take , or how long it may take to get drive shaft bolts out ....

if you could get it done for less than £1k it would be a bonus . 
£50 a hour is maybe cheaper than I was going on to be honest anyway 

and yes if you bought a dg , as long as it was from a early van , it would plumb straight onto your van , but you could swap your van to late water system fairly easily too 

just as easy to put a 2.1 in .... fits just the same . 
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Mocki wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 21:13
just as easy to put a 2.1 in .... fits just the same . 

If you can find one, that is.

I have a spare early DG with inlet manifold. lt was pressurising the cooling system. So l rebuilt the top ends last year with new rings, gaskets and seals. All documented on this forum with photos.
It was going into my camper this year, while l refresh my DJ engine. But lm moving house in April/May/June, so no time for swapping engines. I may sell instead. Interested?
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Thanks for the help and advice, a good second hand engine was definitely one of my considerations,I'll give it some thought, cheers

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Thanks, its still available i think but history seems a bit vague and it doesn't look as if its been in a van for some time. I'll see if I can get some more info! It doesn't seem easy to find a 2.1,which would be very nice after years with the old 1.9DF but a good DG would be 🙂

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Speak to Andrew (ajsimmo) very helpful chap.
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I'm here, Steve. Thanks for the plug!
Yes, I have a rebuilt early DG, which would be an ideal replacement for the DF. I can supply a DG manifold, carb & pancake to match if required. Message me or call if interested. As soon as Covid restrictions allow I'm on a mainland trip delivering an MV, so could fit the DG on the truck too.

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ajsimmo wrote: 24 Feb 2021, 20:32 As soon as Covid restrictions allow I'm on a mainland trip delivering 

ohhh will that be after we might get a pint , it’s been a while ......
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Not sure yet, Steve. We've got Wee Jimmy Krankie holding the keys here, even after Doris lets you lot out!

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Aye.... well Doris and FatMancock lie like a cheap Chinese watch , so until it’s actually happened I expect yet another u turn , once the kids go back to school it’s all going to go boobies skywards again .... 
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There is a 2.1DJ on facebook for £250. No doubt will need a rebuild.
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And in answer to the original question...
I swapped my engine the day before my wedding because we were using it as the wedding car, and did it in an afternoon. Most would probably take a bit longer, say 6-8 hours? Our workshop rate was £50ph, so 300-400 GBP.
If you are looking for a reconditioned WBX engine of any spec I can help you with this.

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