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I just bought 500 off 7mmx1mmx20mm yellow passivated HT machine screws, 11mm hex head, as Wurth no longer do them in 100s, had to come from Germany, actually made in Italy :roll:
I could have had them made locally :lol:

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Interesting, 20mm is still too long though.

I take it you mean tap the Cam SB, do you know how thick it is, looks to me about 6mm
If so you need a 12mm long screw M7x1 and then what to lock it in place? peen the end over? a bit crude.
I wonder if the screw head would touch the oil pump, will look later.
Do you see any reason why it would need to be high tensile?
http://www.superkart.it/engine-spare-pa ... 5-tm-49727" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.kartingshop.nl/en/link/3110 ... x12-5.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Needs to be an easier way for people to swap cam gears :ok
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Loctite. Chemicals win in this environment. I did look at getting some button-head ones made but it was a cost thing. At 4 per engine it would make them look expensive and/or I would never use them all up!
The tap we already have (modular alloy wheels use M7 x1 Titanium alloy screws)

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PS most specials tend to come in the highest tensile rating by default

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looks to me like the standard hex heads on the link above ( some sort of go kart clutch bolt) would fit, may have to get some :D

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Think you will find that a regular cap head will foul the back of the oil pump at the bottom.

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these are not cap heads, look like reduced height hex
http://www.superkart.it/engine-spare-pa ... 5-tm-49727" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Sorry. Didnt follow the link. Might just do it if you can get a socket on them.

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My engine rebuild has just been completed and has gone from this:

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And along the way:

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Very pleased with the results and first road test this weekend :D
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Looks really good, well done 8)
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Yeh ^^^^^^^looks great Jason, good pics :ok

Mine got it's heads fitted tonight, always a worry when torqueing the head nuts but all went well :ok

Got to make another thin 0.07mm paper oil pump gasket, the Elring gasket in the kit 0.25mm that's thicker than the aftermarket ones from Brickwerks and VWH at 0.15mm :shock:

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I know what you mean about the head nuts, worrying times.

I used a very thin bead of Reinzosil sealant on the oil pump cover to make sure it sealed correctly. It was applied very carefully with a thin piece of wire as not to spread and foul the pump itself. Controversial I know but that was the solution I came up with.
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Jawin89 wrote:I know what you mean about the head nuts, worrying times.

I used a very thin bead of Reinzosil sealant on the oil pump cover to make sure it sealed correctly. It was applied very carefully with a thin piece of wire as not to spread and foul the pump itself. Controversial I know but that was the solution I came up with.

I thought about that too but using the yellow sealant for head nuts, be interesting to see how you get on with that, the pump can push 5 bar cold before the relief valve goes.
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The gasket is in there too but so far so good. I will let you know how it goes.
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I can't help thinking you loose as much pressure from the gap between pump and engine case on the outlet.
I used a smear of the yellow head nut sealant last time.
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