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Hi guys,
Any of you have the SA front brakes? I need some discs and don't know which ones to get. My van is a bit of a mixture of early and late parts so it's anyones guess. I believe the pads are the same as a Volvo 440 or an XR4i. Can anyone confirm or deny?
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Needless to say, I've been investigating this for a while. Heritage have no stock, only 1 disc on the shelf in Hannover :roll: I have been talking to another 2.6 SA owner and we are looking to import a batch, I need a couple of pairs to stay on the road.
Only a small cost saving over using Heritage but they are glacially slow in restocking: I asked in July!

Part# 22S 615 301 and yes it is a unique part, local market.

Pads are Delphi 587 iirc, commonest 80's F..d fitment.
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We do have two left in stock but you will have to phone up to order them.

Part number is 251-615-301/V £102.99 each inc vat

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IMO its not very good prectice to stock full 2.6 brake kits but not carry the necessary service parts to support the sales.
These discs were just under £90 each late July 2014.
In SA you can buy them in any motor factors for well under £30 each...
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I have a set of SA calipers, pads and discs here if you are interested.

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Not exactly consumables at that price are they?

What alternative big brakes are out there?
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a few bolt on options here
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Phone BG Developments and ask if they can do you a pair of bells to suit an off-the-shelf AP disc.
No bodging required.
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I bought syncropaddys set and have managed to find the same discs and pads and guess what. They are a common figment and cheap as chips. £25 for the discs and £23 for the pads.
Here are the details
SA Brakes -
Pads
APEC part number -PAD 832 -
Fits
Volvo 440 89-97,
Volvo 460 90-97,
Volvo 480 88-96
Price £22 off eBay

Discs 280mm vented
VW Heritage Disc part number 251-615-301/V - price £103
VW Disc Part number -  22S 615 301
Same disc from the APEC catalog
APEC part no. -DSK 2228 
Figment
Caddy 04-
EOS 06-
Golf MK5 04-
Golf mk5 estate 07-
Golf mk5 plus 05-
Price - £25

Not managed to find the equivalent calipers yet but am working on it.
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nice work Rob

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Nice work... :ok

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Really? Happy to be corrected but I always though they were circa 260mm dia? Should be about 45mm tall from back friction face to wheel mounting surface.

I had word from SA that the discs were made in Germany, would be amazing if the part has been re-used.

Unless there is an early and late brake package for the 2.6 SA's. It still has to all fit inside a 15" alloy wheel and 280mm sounds a bit big to me.

Unless of course Heritage are buying in cheap cadddy discs and turning the o.d. down...hence the /V suffix?
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I went out and checked on my 1995 2.6i (first year for vented brakes) and defo 260 dia, prob. originally 22mm thick max, now the wrong side of 20. Outer braking surface to wheel mounting face approx. 24/25mm but no more than that.

APEC data wrong or x-ref error.

PS I used f..d XR4 front pads, Delphi LP 587

PPS Thanks for the welcome technical distraction. Needed that :)
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Mercedes A class has 260mm discs with 112pcd, any use?
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Hmmm. Mercs were made in SA, rusty C class estates spring to mind so there might be a parts crossover...
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