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Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 15:03
by syncropatrick
And so its starts. What better way for a chap to spend 16 days while his wife is away.
This should be easy eh!
Step 1 = take DJ out
step 2 = take AGG out
step 3 = put AGG in
What could possibly go wrong?

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Don't worry - van is on axle stands at the rear and chocked both ways on front wheels.

Engine and gearbox weigh around 250Kg I reckon.
First question - what the best way with these vans to lower the engine and box onto the floor?
A hand winch on some 2x4 timbers over the engine hatch?
A traditional free standing engine hoist?

Oh, and its raining. Bloody typical!

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 16:30
by silverbullet
Patrick. I will try to contain my disappointment in your loss of faith this Easter and pray for you accordingly. At least it's not an oil burner ;)
DJ is circa 110kg worst case with all its clothes on, syncro transmission about 60kg iirc
Defo use a folding crane. It makes life so easy. A bit of tin or dexion sheet on the ground will give it something to sit on once its dropped and make it easier to slide out.
Thnk you might want the bus a tad higher though. Buy some ramps!

PS raining in Surrey too

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 17:39
by syncropatrick
Thanks Ian. The AGG is a bit heavier I think. Folding crane it is then.
Yeah ramps - borrowed tiddly car ramps but they're not strong enough for the van so they'll get used on the donor car.
Off to Machine Mart tomorrow morning methinks for some bits'n'bobs.

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 17:46
by silverbullet
20v 5 pot is about 150kg so I would say 125-130kg fully dressed. Either way its 200kg on the hook.

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 17:48
by silverbullet
PS you can safely do that on a sling and a couple of carabiners at full reach on a 1 ton Sealey/Draper crane.

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 18:25
by jes*b
excellent :ok

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 18:59
by syncroandy
All the best with it and all that.

..but it seems a lot of effort for only 3 more hp ?

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 19:08
by axeman
Dont forget that the input shaft will need to be swaped over. Although this can be done at home it way be worth a trip it adian to make sure that its fitted correctly.

Good luck with it
Neil

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 19:17
by syncropatrick
syncroandy wrote:All the best with it and all that.

..but it seems a lot of effort for only 3 more hp ?
It's a relatively inexpensive swap and will be reliable. Anyway, I'm a slow driver.

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 19:20
by syncropatrick
axeman wrote:Dont forget that the input shaft will need to be swaped over. Although this can be done at home it way be worth a trip it adian to make sure that its fitted correctly.

Good luck with it
Neil

Thanks for that reminder. Have to see if the gearbox fits in the boot of an MX5!

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 19:21
by silverbullet
Its not the 3 peak hp that makes the difference when driving Andy, you know that.

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 19:26
by axeman
If it dose not fit in the boot then the passenger seat!
Just thinking about what a bearded chap sporting a cap driving a mx5 with the roof down, with a gear box in the passenger seat looks like

Makes me smile

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 20:14
by Syncrobaz
I use beer crates and waffle boards to make a ramp !
Good luck, I'm sticking with my trusty mv, electronics give me a severe headache !!!!

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 20:44
by Aidan
engine crane here you could borrow

Re: Syncro engine swap - DJ to AGG

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 20:56
by syncropatrick
Aidan wrote:engine crane here you could borrow

Cool. You around this weekend and will it fit in an MX5?